Monday, August 13, 2007

Cartoon for August 13

Here's today's cartoon, about the "pass the buck" mentality that has prevailed since the Iraq War became plainly unwinnable. Click on the cartoon to see it bigger, and feel free to comment here.

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13 comments:

  1. JAugust 13, 2007 at 8:45 AM

    I don't think we Americans dignify his loss with such explanations. Isn't our response more along the lines of "It's your fault we killed your kid. Time to take responsibility for your own country."?

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  2. wlthayaAugust 13, 2007 at 11:07 AM

    Yes, their country wouldn't be in such a mess if they would "stand up." None of us want to be in Iraq any longer than we have to. And ultimately it is Saddam's fault: had he just complied and handed over the country to us or our designated representatives, all of this could have been avoided. It's a burden, but someone has to protect our Way of Life.

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  3. angeloAugust 13, 2007 at 2:32 PM

    wlthaya, that is not funny...okay, it is sorta funny ;)

    This cartoon is in the same vein as my personal favorite: "If Terri Schiavo Was Iraqi". If you look at all of the other Iraq war cartoons and columns, they focus on US casualties. No one ever talks about dead Iraqis. As a citizen of this country, it is hard for me to grasp that I am paying for a lot of innocent people to die for nothing, even though I know that I am. That might be why I am here typing this instead of planning to kill some of the people responsible. The people who brought us into these useless wars have made killers of us all. The longer we let it go on, the more we deserve to die. Is that "un-American" of me? Aren't we one of the last countries who uses capital punishment?
    Anyways, part of the reason it's hard to grasp that we are killing innocent people is that ted is one of few, albeit not mainstream, members of the media who brings it up.

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  4. John MadziarczykAugust 13, 2007 at 4:21 PM

    Well, it's contained in the comic, but I have to say that people won't realize what they done until they see the physical results of this war.

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  5. Citizen05118DAugust 13, 2007 at 5:26 PM

    It's staggering, to me, the number of dead Iraqis. As of today we, The American Public, have not received any reason what-so-ever as to why the hell we are there.

    I would have to agree with angelo when he says "...The people who brought us into these useless wars have made killers of us all..."

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  6. AnonymousAugust 13, 2007 at 8:55 PM

    Generalissimo Busho doesn't look worried one bit as his brain and fellow war criminal leaves for Texas to spend more time with his family. Isn't that the same thing Karen Hughes did before she went back to work for El Busho? Does anyone really think that Rove will be out of the loop once he leaves Washington? That he hasn't planned El Busho's second term right down to the last day? That human deaths from war, no matter what country they are from, doesn't matter one bit to everyone in the Bush administration? We are witnessing a gang of cold-blooded killers walk away with our government, our Constitution, and the future of our children. Does anything believe that the increase of violent deaths by shooting in our country in the past several years isn't connected to the rape of our country by Bush and his Skulls? This isn't a tv reality show, fellow 'Mericans. We are seriously fucked up to have let this happen in full view. Molly Ivins is spinning in her grave.

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  7. DouglasAugust 14, 2007 at 2:55 AM

    I would like to think that the real question raised by Cde. Rall's cartoon is where responsibility for the death of the Iraqi child lies.

    Under the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War (Articles 146 and 147), the primary responsibilty lies with the soldier who killed the child with secondary responsibilty devolving to the military chain of command. In other words, the soldiers in panels #2 and #3 as well as POTUS in panel #7 are exposed to criminal charges arising from the death of the Iraqi child.

    The Nuremburg Principles state that following orders is not a defense at law (Principle IV). Indeed, Congress and the Media could be liable under Principle VII. At the Nuremberg Trials, one newspaper editor (Julius Streicher) was sentenced to death for his "...incitement to murder and extermination..." (Gilbert 1995, p.443), as well as several politicians (e.g. Fritz Sauckel and Baron von Neurath) were either hung or imprisioned.

    All of these legal niceties avoid the central tenet of a Democracy: the people are responsible for acts committed in their name. So the responsibility for the death of the Iraqi lies with the people in panel #5. I believe some people understand Principle VII extends to all adults in a functioning democracy.


    Gilbert, G.M. (1995) "Nuremberg Diary", Da Capo Press, USA.

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  8. AnonymousAugust 14, 2007 at 3:59 AM

    you forgot to blame Canada! :-)

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  9. TonyAugust 14, 2007 at 8:24 AM

    I never see commentary or comics like this anywhere else. Only brutal honesty will convince the public that this whole bogus affair is obscene.

    Censorship and suppression of dissent are the main ways to stifle public awareness. Just a couple of days ago, it was reported that AT&T removed political commentary from a Pearl Jam webcast.

    Ted, are you informed beforehand when a particular comic or editorial won't run in a usual venue?

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  10. Matt BorsAugust 14, 2007 at 9:02 AM

    This cartoon is excellent but it's so compact. You should have found some mag to let you do it as a fll page.

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  11. Ted RallAugust 14, 2007 at 10:26 AM

    "Ted, are you informed beforehand when a particular comic or editorial won't run in a usual venue?"

    No. I draw three cartoons a week, and very few papers publish all three anyway. I do know from experience that hard-hitting work doesn't get published with the same degree of frequency as lighter material.

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  12. Ted RallAugust 14, 2007 at 10:27 AM

    "This cartoon is excellent but it's so compact. You should have found some mag to let you do it as a full page."

    Thanks, that would obviously have been better. If any magazines are interested in my work, they know where to find me!

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  13. AndersAugust 15, 2007 at 6:36 AM

    John Madziarczyk said:
    "Well, it's contained in the comic, but I have to say that people won't realize what they done until they see the physical results of this war."
    I believe that was one of the thoughts behind the 9/11/2001 hijackings; to give some back, after years of taking it up the rear passage from the USA or it's proxy-regimes. (Like the genocidal sanctions against Iraq, started by mr. Clinton, one of the most violent Presidents in your country's history.)

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